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TomTom februari 2017

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Technisch gaat 5 daags vanmiddag of morgen door 10 daags...das mooi
dus nu nog een bericht of positievere beurs en dan weer een 8.30 zien?

vrijdagmiddag shorters iets afgebouwd? Dat zien we nabeurs...

Wel bijzonder dat afgelopen vrijdagmiddag de omzetten groter werden en de koers opliep....

voorkennis AFM ?
Dutchy Ron
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TT zal betalen voor de crowdsourced data die is gegenereerd door chips van Qualcomm, Nvidia, etc. Wie het factuurtje stuurt is de vraag, daarbij gaat het er om wie eigenaar is de crowdsourced data, de autofabrikant of de chipleverancier. Het ligt voor de hand dat het de autofabrikant is. En die krijgt op haar beurt van TT een factuur voor geleverde kaarten. Of eea gaat met gesloten beurs. Maar wat schiet TT er dan mee op ;-)
Dutchy Ron
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Question 1: Who Owns the Driving Data?

As semi- and fully-autonomous vehicles drive around, who owns the data collected: The auto maker? The fleet owner? Or the user? Why does the user pay $100,000 for a car and have the data belong to the auto manufacturer?

As we have seen, the data collected by AV’s is a critical asset, and we should expect to see major fights over ownership. Indeed, a deal being negotiated between Apple and both Daimler and BMW seems to have fallen through over this critical point.

It’s early days, but it appears like the battle lines are drawn between the traditional automakers and the internet companies. Google, Apple and Tesla seem to believe that the data belongs to them?—?Tesla makes owners sign over all data rights to the company and uses the data extensively. On the other hand, the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, with 20+ global automakers just agreed to “Consumer Privacy Protection Principles”, where they make clear that users own the data and are free to do what they want with it.
Dutchy Ron
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Question 2: Do automakers become map makers?

Where do the lines get drawn between data owned by vehicle manufacturers versus mapping companies? And where do technology providers such as MobileEye and NVIDIA fit in?

From a strategic standpoint, Autonomous vehicles and HD Maps are complements. Vehicle manufacturers would love nothing more than access to ubiquitous, high quality and cheap maps. They would like a ‘commodity complement’. This tension arises because a non-commodity complement threatens to eat into the profit share of the industry. Chris Dixon has a great discussion on “Commoditize your complement”. Tesla announced that they would make the maps they make from their vehicles available to others.

The key issue is that mapmaking is a capital intensive business. By some estimates, it takes $2B per year or more to run a mapmaking operation?—?which includes 2000+ people in post processing operations, usually in India. This implies that HD Maps are unlikely to be a commodity.

Similarly, mapmakers would love to have access to the data from each car, which provides them ubiquitous data that they would otherwise have to spend (a lot) of money to acquire. It is rumored that the buy-in to join the HERE maps consortium is $500M! But it’s unclear what their insertion point would be. There are already deals between mapmakers and automakers, and there are likely to be more of these.

OpenStreetMaps is a viable open source mapping system, with a rich set of contributors. However, the licensing requirements of OSM require any modifications or changes to be given back to OSM, which is likely to be a hurdle.

Another alternative is that the industry could vertically integrate, with vehicle makers buying mapping companies either directly or as part of consortia. This will likely accelerate, given that there are relatively few map companies. But HD Cartography is a beast with its own challenges, and auto makers have their hands full solving the on-vehicle systems challenge.

Erik9400
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Dat maakt niet uit hoor ron, iemand uit de VS kan nu ook gewoon kopen

En denk niet dat iemand tot 7:00 vanmorgen nog dacht dat TT alleen kastjes maakt maar nu opeens wakker is geworden
PGV
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janrobert schreef op 27 februari 2017 11:15:

Goed nieuws, koers daalt
Bij slecht nieuws ook. Beslist geen sexy aandeel meer.
Dutchy Ron
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Die PSA-Gruppe mit ihren bekanntesten Konzernmarken Citroën, DS und Peugeot wird in Zukunft auf Prozessoren von Qualcomm für das Infotainment setzen. Das haben beide Hersteller in einer gemeinsamen Erklärung bekannt gegeben.

Der PSA-Konzern will den Snapdragon 820A ab dem Jahre 2020 in neuen Kraftfahrzeugen unter anderem für das Infotainment verbauen. Der Snapdragon 820A ist eine Automotive-zertifizierte Spezialvariante des Snapdragon 820, wie er aktuell in Smartphones und Tablets verbaut wird. Der Kernkomponenten sind mit vier Kryo-Kernen, Adreno-530-GPU, LPDDR4-Arbeitsspeicher und Hexagon DSP die gleichen.

Mitsibutsi idem dito

www.computerbase.de/2017-02/snapdrago...
Dutchy Ron
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Last month at the CES show, ZongMu along with Qualcomm unveiled the Qualcomm Snapdragon 820A to power next-generation Volkswagen infotainment systems, announcing a Cellular V2X trial in Germany, revealing a new class of high-bandwidth Gigabit LTE for vehicles and demonstrating how Snapdragon 820A can bring the next level of intelligence to automatic driving transition.
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Dutchy Ron schreef op 27 februari 2017 11:20:

Die PSA-Gruppe mit ihren bekanntesten Konzernmarken Citroën, DS und Peugeot wird in Zukunft auf Prozessoren von Qualcomm für das Infotainment setzen. Das haben beide Hersteller in einer gemeinsamen Erklärung bekannt gegeben.

Der PSA-Konzern will den Snapdragon 820A ab dem Jahre 2020 in neuen Kraftfahrzeugen unter anderem für das Infotainment verbauen. Der Snapdragon 820A ist eine Automotive-zertifizierte Spezialvariante des Snapdragon 820, wie er aktuell in Smartphones und Tablets verbaut wird. Der Kernkomponenten sind mit vier Kryo-Kernen, Adreno-530-GPU, LPDDR4-Arbeitsspeicher und Hexagon DSP die gleichen.

Mitsibutsi idem dito

www.computerbase.de/2017-02/snapdrago...
Goed gevonden! (AB) hieruit maak ik op dat de samenwerkingen vooral door de autobouwers worden gedreven.
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Dutchy Ron schreef op 27 februari 2017 11:20:

Die PSA-Gruppe mit ihren bekanntesten Konzernmarken Citroën, DS und Peugeot wird in Zukunft auf Prozessoren von Qualcomm für das Infotainment setzen. Das haben beide Hersteller in einer gemeinsamen Erklärung bekannt gegeben.

Der PSA-Konzern will den Snapdragon 820A ab dem Jahre 2020 in neuen Kraftfahrzeugen unter anderem für das Infotainment verbauen. Der Snapdragon 820A ist eine Automotive-zertifizierte Spezialvariante des Snapdragon 820, wie er aktuell in Smartphones und Tablets verbaut wird. Der Kernkomponenten sind mit vier Kryo-Kernen, Adreno-530-GPU, LPDDR4-Arbeitsspeicher und Hexagon DSP die gleichen.

Mitsibutsi idem dito

www.computerbase.de/2017-02/snapdrago...
Dan lijkt zich toch wat af te tekenen. Tel daar Opel bij op (en wellicht de rest van GM?) en het feit dat Mitsubishi verwijst naar Renault/Nissan. Nou nog duidelijk Toyota signalen en eventueel Tesla model 3.
Dutchy Ron
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One of the most surprising announcements at the CES 2017 show was the announcement from both Volkswagen and Qualcomm that these two companies will work together on the connectivity of VW cars as well as on the way to implement the Qualcomm self-driving Snapdragon 820A platform in future cars.


The big surprise comes from the fact that Nvidia claims dominance in ADAS and self-driving and it looks like that it managed to lose the world’s biggest car manufacturer to its big rival, Qualcomm.

Nvidia is missing one critical part, the connectivity part called a modem. Cars of the future will heavily rely on a connected car platform that includes a modem. This is the piece of the puzzle that Nvidia is missing.

Nvidia won the Drive PX automotive deal with Tesla, and this is, so far, one of the splashiest announcement. We will come back to you about the fact that yesterday Nvidia announced that it will partner with Mercedes too. Nvidia scored a lot of big names in the automotive field, but we have to point out, lost Volkswagen, the famous VW.

Dr. Volkmar Tanneberg, an executive director of Electrics and Electronic development at Volkswagen, took to the stage with Qualcomm’s CEO to announce this partnership.

Dr. Tanneberg mentioned that VW plans to use Snapdragon X12 modem and X5 LTE modem in its 2018 line up. He pointed out that the VW is using the current generation Qualcomm modem in its connected car.

The more important announcement is that VW plans to use the Automotive Snapdragon 820A in its new cars scheduled to launch in the course of 2019.
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Goed bezig, Ron.

Wel apart in dit kader dat VW dan wel weer voor Mobileye heeft gekozen voor de sensoren i.p.v. Qualcom/NXP. Dus of we positieve TomTom gedachtes kunnen verbinden aan jouw laatste VW-post is de vraag.
Dutchy Ron
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Qualcomm Drive Data platform is built on three pillars: heterogeneous connectivity, precise positioning and on-device machine learning, all integrated into the Qualcomm Snapdragon solution

The platform uses a Qualcomm Snapdragon 820Am automotive processor. With an optional integrated X12 LTE modem capable of up to Cat 12 speeds, the Snapdragon 820Am is designed to deliver the next level of intelligence and mobile connectivity (e.g., 802.11p, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth LE).

It is designed to fuse data from the vehicle’s camera feed with inertial sensors and navigation data, optimized for precise positioning up to lane-level accuracy even in challenging environments such as urban canyons. Additionally, Qualcomm Technologies is offering a deep-learning software development kit (SDK). The SDK, called the Qualcomm Snapdragon Neural Processing Engine (SNPE), is engineered to use the Snapdragon processor’s heterogeneous compute capabilities to provide auto makers a powerful, energy-efficient platform for delivering the next level of automotive intelligence.
Dutchy Ron
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voor localization (sensoren, camera's, lidar, etc), connectivity, etc. kunnen er beste verschillende chips en processoren in 1 VW zitten, idg van Qualcomm en Mobileye.
Dutchy Ron
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PSA cars to incorporate Qualcomm chipsets from 2020
Sunday 26 February 2017 | 19:24 CET | News



French car manufacturer PSA Group (formerly PSA Peugeot Citroen) has announced plans to integrate Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 820 Automotive (820A) processor in its in-car infotainment system, with the first vehicles expected to be available in 2020.
The Snapdragon 820A processor is based on a 14nm FinFET advanced process node running on Qualcomm’s 64-bit Kyro CPU, Adreno 530 GPU and Hexagon 680 DSP Vector extension

Alles wijst erop dat TT PSA in de pocket heeft. De puzzelstukjes vwb PSA worden steeds duidelijker........nog ff die Opel deal afronden en gaan.
siepels
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Hik schreef op 27 februari 2017 09:37:

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Spijtig genoeg ben ik het met je eens.

Wel prettig dat jullie ervan overtuigd zijn de diepe,
werkelijke achtergrond te kennen.
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siepels schreef op 27 februari 2017 12:01:

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Niemand kent TomTom of de markt.

Qualcomm heeft ook nog een 'integratie dingetje' te doen met hun NXP acquistie. De NXP BLuebox overlapt deels hun eigen Drive Data Platform, maar zie ik als een iets volwassener benadering van het gehele autonomous driving traject (van sensors tot actuators).
Wat gaat er winnen? Allebei in de lucht houden?
Wipo
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PGV schreef op 27 februari 2017 11:18:

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Bij slecht nieuws ook. Beslist geen sexy aandeel meer.
Gauw verkopen dan PGV!
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