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KPN Weekdraadje 7 t/m 13 september

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bloemanjer schreef op 9 september 2013 18:31:

Morgen :
voorbeurs bod van 2.85
open op 2.80
high 2.85
slot 2.83
Wat er gebeurd? Opeens allemaal Jomanda's hier??

Rabo, je voorspelt er maar wat op los. 1 Bloemanjer is wel genoeg.

Bullshit-detector aan mensen. Maargoed, sommige mensen trappen overal in.
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we shall see !!!
Probably I have to say "I told you so !!!"

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pwijsneus schreef op 9 september 2013 18:41:

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Wat er gebeurd? Opeens allemaal Jomanda's hier??

Rabo, je voorspelt er maar wat op los. 1 Bloemanjer is wel genoeg.

Bullshit-detector aan mensen. Maargoed, sommige mensen trappen overal in.
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Orange Sees German Wireless Merger Approval Triggering Shakeup

Orange SA (ORA), France’s biggest phone company, said regulatory approval of Telefonica SA (TEF) and Royal KPN NV’s bid to combine their German assets would trigger a shakeup in Europe’s telecommunications industry.
“If Germany accepts to go from four carriers to three, it will create an earthquake in Europe,” Chief Executive Officer Stephane Richard said in Paris today. “It will force other countries to reconsider their positions on consolidation.”
The takeover of KPN’s E-Plus by Telefonica Deutschland Holding AG (O2D), which sells services under the O2 brand, will get a close look from European competition watchdogs. With more than 100 carriers in the region’s fragmented phone market and many struggling to keep up profitability, an approval of the combination of O2 and E-Plus -- to create Germany’s largest wireless operator by customers -- would encourage more mergers and acquisitions in the industry.
Orange would seek to consolidate its position in countries including Spain and Poland, and consider fixed-line acquisitions in Belgium and Romania, where it sells only wireless services, Richard told reporters today.
European Union antitrust chief Joaquin Almunia’s spokesman, Antoine Colombani, said last week there’s no “magic number” for operators in a region. KPN and Telefonica haven’t notified the European Commission, the EU’s administrative arm, of their official proposal, and they may have to offer concessions such as asset disposals to win approval.
With earnings under pressure amid falling prices and investments needed to upgrade networks, carriers from EE in the U.K. and Vivendi SA’s SFR in France to Telecom Italia SpA and Spain’s Yoigo are also considering partnerships or share sales. EE is a 50-50 venture between Orange and Deutsche Telekom AG. (DTE)
‘Optimal Level’
“Recent deals in the telecoms market have shown that politicians have sometimes under-estimated the reality of our industry, with the heavy investments it entails,” Richard said at a press conference. “The optimal level of competition looks to be three carriers per market rather than four.”
In France, Orange has struggled to stem a slide in its phone bills since Iliad SA (ILD) became the fourth mobile carrier in 2012, prompting a price war and cost cuts among rivals.
Almunia has indicated that he sees consolidation in the industry could be helpful, saying earlier this year the fragmentation “preoccupies” him. Some local watchdogs have kept to a tougher stance. While the competition authority in France has encouraged sharing networks, it has said that straight mergers between carriers are neither possible nor desirable.
Neelie Kroes, the European Commissioner in charge of the digital agenda, will this week unveil sweeping reform to make Europe operate more like a single market. Her proposal aims to get rid of roaming charges and standardize processes for governments to allocate resources like spectrum licenses in an attempt to make the region’s phone market -- which has fallen behind the U.S. -- more competitive.
To contact the reporter on this story: Marie Mawad in Paris at mmawad1@bloomberg.net
To contact the editor responsible for this story: Kenneth Wong at kwong11@bloomberg.net
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Ook naar even die stelling op dft ingevuld. Krijgen we morgen misschien een telegraaf nieuwtje "beleggers vinden huidige koers KPN te laag"
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Peett schreef op 9 september 2013 18:55:

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Consolidatie is precies wat de EU wil, mits het positief is voor de consument.

Alleen zal Orange een partij zijn die overgenomen wordt. De hele telekommarkt in Europa wordt zo interessant.
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“América Móvil announces tender offer for all shares of KPN”
Mexico City, Mexico, August 9, 2013 -- América Móvil, S.A.B. de C.V. (“América Móvil” or “AMX”) (BMV: AMX; NYSE: AMX; Nasdaq: AMOV; LATIBEX: XAMXL) announced today its intention to make (directly or through a wholly owned subsidiary) a voluntary tender offer in cash for all of the issued and outstanding ordinary shares of Koninklijke KPN N.V. (“KPN”), at a price of EUR 2.40 per share (the "Intended Offer").
The Intended Offer price of EUR 2.40 per share implies a premium of approximately 35.4% over the average closing price of KPN's ordinary shares on Euronext Amsterdam for the last 30 trading days.
Rationale for the Intended Offer
In recent years, América Móvil has been exploring opportunities to expand its operations to other regions outside the Americas in order to achieve geographical diversification and create attractive long-term returns for its shareholders. KPN represented its first investment outside of the Americas. More than a year after its initial investment in KPN, América Móvil’s objective is to acquire a majority stake in KPN in order to facilitate greater operational co- operation and co-ordination between the two companies, to exploit all areas for potential partnerships and to intensify the realization of synergy potential for both companies.
América Móvil aims to support to a greater extent KPN's plans in a rapidly changing environment in Europe so that both companies benefit from their respective experiences in the sector.
As of the date hereof, América Móvil held (directly and indirectly) 1,267,677,000 ordinary shares in the capital of KPN, representing approximately 29.77% of all issued and outstanding ordinary shares in the capital of KPN. 1
América Móvil recently explained the proposed transaction to KPN representatives. América Móvil has invited KPN ´s Supervisory Board and Board of Management (the “KPN Boards”) to meet as soon as possible to further discuss the Intended Offer and potential terms for a long-term constructive relationship. América Móvil would welcome support from the KPN Boards.
Conditions to the Intended Offer
The Intended Offer will be subject to conditions, which will include a minimum acceptance condition that following settlement of the Intended Offer América Móvil will hold directly or indirectly more than 50% (fifty per cent) of the voting rights exercisable in a general meeting of shareholders of KPN, required regulatory approvals, no competing transactions having been announced or made by any party and no material adverse event having occurred.
In accordance with article 12 paragraph 1 of the Takeover Decree, América Móvil will ultimately at the time of launch of the Intended Offer determine and confirm the conditions to the Intended Offer.
Indicative Timetable
América Móvil intends to submit an offer memorandum to the Netherlands Authority for the Financial Markets (Stichting Autoriteit Financiële Markten, “AFM”) for approval, to make the required statement that it will have means available to fund the offer price payable under the Intended Offer, and to finalize all required documentation with regard to the Intended Offer expeditiously. Once the offer memorandum is approved by the AFM, the offer will be made and the offer memorandum will be published. It is currently expected that this will take place during September 2013. América Móvil has informed the AFM of the Intended Offer.
E-Plus
On July 23, 2013, KPN announced that it had “entered into a transaction, subject to shareholder approval, to sell and transfer 100% of its interest in E-Plus to Telefonica Deutschland for EUR 5.0 billion in cash and a 17.6% stake in Telefonica Deutschland post transaction”. According to KPN's announcement the transaction is subject to other terms and conditions, including merger clearance.
América Móvil is carefully evaluating the merits of the proposed transaction and will make a final determination in relation to the exercise of its voting rights at the upcoming Extraordinary General Meeting of KPN.
1 Not taking into account 12,156,391 ordinary shares held by KPN as at 31 December 2012.
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América Móvil Financial Position
América Móvil will continue to maintain its sound financial position, allowing for further investments in the telecommunication and related sectors in the Americas in order for AMX to maintain its leadership and state-of-the-art technology, as well as to continue with the development, growth and innovation of products, services and content.
About América Móvil
AMX is the leading provider of telecommunication services in Latin America. As of June 30, 2013, it had 262 million wireless subscribers and 66.8 million fixed revenue generating units in the Americas.
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Disclaimer
This press release contains certain forward-looking statements that reflect the current views and/or expectations of AMX and its management with respect to its performance, business and future events. We use words such as “believe,” “anticipate,” “plan,” “expect,” “intend,” “target,” “estimate,” “project,” “predict,” “forecast,” “guideline,” “should” and other similar expressions to identify forward-looking statements, but they are not the only way we identify such statements. Such statements are subject to a number of risks, uncertainties and assumptions. We caution you that a number of important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the plans, objectives, expectations, estimates and intentions expressed in this release. AMX is under no obligation and expressly disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.

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“América Móvil notes exercise of the call option by the foundation preference shares class B KPN and continues to be committed to the intended offer for KPN”
Mexico City, Mexico, August 30, 2013 -- América Móvil, S.A.B. de C.V. (“América Móvil” or “AMX”) (BMV: AMX; NYSE: AMX; Nasdaq: AMOV; LATIBEX: XAMXL) announced today that it has taken note of the announcement by the board of the Stichting Preference Shares B KPN (the "Foundation") that the Foundation has exercised the option granted to it by Koninklijke KPN N.V. ("KPN") to purchase class B preference shares in the capital of KPN. In addition América Móvil has taken note of the announcement by KPN's Supervisory Board and Management Board (the "KPN Boards") that KPN has issued 4,258,098,272 preference shares class B to the Foundation, resulting in the Foundation having obtained 4,258,098,272 preference shares class B in the capital of KPN, representing 50% minus 1 vote of all issued and outstanding shares in the capital of KPN.1
The Facts
América Móvil has been KPN ´s largest minority shareholder since June, 2012. At the time we made our initial investment, the company was suffering the impact of years of underinvestment in the business, as the company catered to investors seeking high cash returns and quick
1 Not taking into account 12,156,391 ordinary shares held by KPN as at 31 December 2012.
profits. In the process KPN had lost market share across the board as thousands of dissatisfied customers jumped ship to its competitors.
Less than six months after the completion of America Movil’s initial investment América Móvil was sought out by KPN because the company was struggling to maintain an investment grade rating on its debt. When adjusted for pension and off-balance sheet obligations the real debt of the company was substantially higher, and was several times larger than the cash flow generated by its operations. The company feared that the loss of the investment grade status on its debt would make it extremely difficult for the company to meet its obligations.
América Móvil decided to support a re-capitalization effort at KPN. Thanks to its support, KPN managed to raise €4 billion euros in new equity, including €3 billion euros through a rights issue last May to which America Movil contributed €900 million euros.
Recently KPN decided to sell its German subsidiary E-Plus to the Spanish operator Telefónica. America Movil’s efforts allowed KPN to receive €500 million euros more for the sale of its German asset than had been offered by Telefónica—and accepted by KPN.
América Móvil is an investor well known for taking the long view on its investments, for developing its companies, creating jobs and training its employees for them to adapt to a rapidly changing work environment driven by technological change.
We have acquired dozens of firms in the Americas, including in the U.S., and currently manage operations in 18 countries. We have over 150 thousand employees and continue to create jobs in the countries where we operate. Our capital expenditures total 10 billion dollars per year and have helped us build an integrated fixed and mobile operation throughout Latin America. Our business is one that is competitive and offers more and better services to its clients at increasingly affordable prices.
From the beginning América Móvil has tried to cooperate with KPN and to create value for KPN’s stakeholders. We have operating knowhow and scale that KPN lacks and that can yield important improvements for the company. In February we entered into a Relationship Agreement with KPN that allowed us to have more interaction with the company’s management with a view to making a greater contribution for the future of the company. As a long-term investor we believe we can help KPN focus more on its infrastructure investments for the benefit of its customers, its employees and its shareholders. We believe we can help make it into a better company, one that grows, creates jobs, is more competitive and ultimately is strong enough to remain a major player at home and abroad. And one that, because of its financial strength and technological reliability, serves its country well.
On August 9th America Movil announced its intention to make a public offer for the shares of KPN. This announcement, contrary to what has been stated by the Foundation, followed consultations with the company. Immediately after the announcement, and also contrary to the Foundation’s statements, America Movil sought out KPN’s management for the purpose of negotiating a new Relationship Agreement that would establish the basis of their interaction in years to come. As recently as this week we had further substantive discussions with KPN to progress the draft Relationship Agreement. Further meetings were scheduled to take place today, August 30th.
America Movil is a company that continues to grow, serving more customers and investing more in the development of new services. This is what we aim to do with KPN.
In the event that the Foundation maintains its current position and seeks to prevent the offer from proceeding to the detriment of KPN’s customers, employees and shareholders, and also to the detriment of telecommunication services in the Netherlands, all of whom America Movil firmly believes will benefit from the offer, America Movil is prepared to withdraw its offer.
About América Móvil
América Móvil is the leading provider of telecommunication services in Latin America. As of June 30, 2013, it had approximately 262 million wireless subscribers and approximately 67 million fixed revenue generating units in the Americas.
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Disclaimer
This press release contains certain forward-looking statements that reflect the current views and/or expectations of América Móvil and its management with respect to its performance, business and future events. We use words such as “believe,” “anticipate,” “plan,” “expect,” “intend,” “target,” “estimate,” “project,” “predict,” “forecast,” “guideline,” “should” and other similar expressions to identify forward- looking statements, but they are not the only way we identify such statements. Such statements are subject to a number of risks, uncertainties and assumptions. We caution you that a number of important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the plans, objectives, expectations, estimates and intentions expressed in this release. América Móvil is under no obligation and expressly disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.
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Moneyball schreef op 9 september 2013 16:45:

www.telegraaf.nl/tv/dft/beursflits/21...

Die Harry, mooie vent.. Zegt niet vaak wat interessants, maar deze keer ben ik het wel met hem eens. Downside is met E-plus deal gewoon erg beperkt.

Los daarvan, die overname komt er wel
Grappig: de presentatrice zegt "welkom", zegt Harry "welkom" terug (die fout maken meer mensen (ik ook), kennelijk omdat de neiging bestaat te herhalen wat de gesprekspartner zegt). En verder zitten we volgens Harry allemaal "met smacht" te wachten, waar hij "met smart" bedoelt....
pwijsneus
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Rabo schreef op 9 september 2013 19:23:

morgen openen we op 2.53

En wat worden de winnende eindcijfers bij de Staatsloterij??
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Rabo, stop met het posten van oud nieuws.
Het is niet alsof jouw belachelijke voorspelling daardoor waarschijnlijker lijkt.
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KaPeeN63 schreef op 9 september 2013 18:00:

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Lezen Charlie, er staat: LOL.
En ten overvloede; dat betekent ´laat ons lachen´ !
manuss
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Rabo schreef op 9 september 2013 19:23:

morgen openen we op 2.53

Het Nederlands elftal verliest morgen met 10-0 van Andorra.
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elf schreef op 9 september 2013 19:33:

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Het Nederlands elftal verliest morgen met 10-0 van Andorra.
En WW3 breekt deze maand uit.
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Syria welcomes Russia’s proposal that it put its stockpiles of chemical weapons under international control, Foreign Minister Walid al-Moualem told reporters in Moscow, Russian news agencies reported.
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Opus135 schreef op 9 september 2013 19:20:

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Grappig: de presentatrice zegt "welkom", zegt Harry "welkom" terug (die fout maken meer mensen (ik ook), kennelijk omdat de neiging bestaat te herhalen wat de gesprekspartner zegt). En verder zitten we volgens Harry allemaal "met smacht" te wachten, waar hij "met smart" bedoelt....
Harry snapt er overigens niet veel van. Hij geeft E-Plus een waarde van 1,45 in het hele KPN concern. Klopt natuurlijk niet echt. De waarde van E-Plus, na de verhoging van het bod van Telefonica, is ongeveer 1,90.
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