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HCohen
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Nu goed op de US letten, daar zal binnen nu en een jaar bepaald worden hoe lang 'het funny-money-vacuum' nog mag/ kan bestaan.
De EU volgt waarschijnlijk als laatste(ondanks de druk uit Frankrijk en Spanje). Het nadeel van een onvoltooide Unie(work in progress).

Meest waarschijnlijk scenario;
Regulering en fiscalisering, eerst de US en dan de EU.
Maar; naar verwachting digital Euro eerst en daarna pas de digital dollar.

Faites vos jeux
Enzo123
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HCohen schreef op 1 augustus 2021 08:55:


Nu goed op de US letten, daar zal binnen nu en een jaar bepaald worden hoe lang 'het funny-money-vacuum' nog mag/ kan bestaan.
De EU volgt waarschijnlijk als laatste(ondanks de druk uit Frankrijk en Spanje). Het nadeel van een onvoltooide Unie(work in progress).

Meest waarschijnlijk scenario;
Regulering en fiscalisering, eerst de US en dan de EU.
Maar; naar verwachting digital Euro eerst en daarna pas de digital dollar.

Faites vos jeux



Je begint de boel wel een beetje op te rekken zie ik, begin mei zei je dit:

'quote alias=HCohen id=13404414 date=202105031051:
Ik gun jullie grote successen en heb het idee dat er veel believers zitten op dit forum, maarruh ooit van tulpenbollen gehoord..? Bij de ECB omschrijven ze bitcoin letterlijk als tulpenbol.

Laten we hier over een jaartje op terugkomen..'

Moet je dan nu niet bijstellen van een jaar naar 9 maanden?

Regulering en fiscalisering betekent m.i. niks slechts, ik betaal altijd gewoon netjes belasting over mijn crypto's. Niks mis mee. Regulering betekent niet dat crypto's gaan verdwijnen, sterker nog, (meer) regulering zal ervoor zorgen dat crypto's onderdeel worden van de huidige economie.
Enzo123
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Warren wordt veel gequote, maar er zijn machtshebbers in de VS die heel anders over crypto's denken:


US Senator Lummis: Big Government Spenders Are Accelerating Adoption of Crypto Assets Like Bitcoin

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U.S. Senator Cynthia Lummis is pushing for regulation that would ensure bitcoin remains a good store of value. If the cryptocurrency “is to become what El Salvador has done, legal tender, then we need to make sure that we are using it in ways that comply with the Bank Secrecy Act and anti-money laundering laws,” she said. The pro-bitcoin senator also noted that big government spenders are “doing far more to accelerate the adoption of digital assets” than she is.

Senator Lummis on Bitcoin Adoption and Cryptocurrency Regulation
U.S. Senator Cynthia Lummis has shared her view about cryptocurrency regulation and adoption. Following the Senate Banking Committee’s hearing about cryptocurrencies, she tweeted Wednesday:

Big gov’t spenders are (accidentally) doing far more to accelerate the adoption of digital assets than I am. The debasement of our currency is causing a flight to digital assets like bitcoin that are a store of value.

However, she added that “spending America deeper into a hole is a stupid, inflationary and altogether undesirable way to drive people to digital assets.” The senator emphasized: “I want USD to continue as the world’s reserve currency. We need to reign in spending and support financial innovation on U.S. soil to protect the status of the United States.”

In an interview with Fox Business Wednesday, Senator Lummis was asked what form of cryptocurrency regulation she would like to see in the U.S. going forward.

“I want to start with good solid definitions … I want the end result to be a regulatory sandbox where everyone understands the rules but innovation can still occur unrestricted,” she replied.

She was then specifically asked how the crypto regulation she is pushing for would affect bitcoin. She explained:

We want to make sure that bitcoin can continue to serve as a good store of value. And, if it is to become what El Salvador has done, legal tender, then we need to make sure that we are using it in ways that comply with the Bank Secrecy Act and anti-money laundering laws. We want to make sure that it’s used legitimately.


The senator from Wyoming was also asked if she owned bitcoin herself. “I do own bitcoin myself. It’s the only cryptocurrency I own. I own it because it’s a great store value. I’m going to save it so when I retire I know it’s there,” she described. “The only digital asset that I understand is bitcoin because it’s such a great store of value. Only 21 million will ever be mined.”

Lummis further opined:

I encourage other people, who want to make sure that they have a diversified asset allocation for their retirement, at least one asset that they know is going to hold its value much like gold, that they consider bitcoin.'

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Enzo123
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Bitcoin Mining Operation Reveals Plans to Convert Coal Ash Landfill Into Solar Farm

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Following the announcement from Greenidge Generation Holdings that detailed the company would be promoting a carbon-neutral stance, and the firm’s recent partnership with Foundry, Greenidge revealed on Thursday it is investing profits into a renewable energy investment program. The company is in the midst of expediting the closure of a coal ash landfill in order to construct a new solar farm.

Greenidge Invests in Renewable Energy Investment Program
In 2014, the Lockwood Hills landfill in Dresden, New York was purchased by Lockwood Hills LLC, which is a subsidiary of Greenidge. The site has been “safely maintained” over the last seven years, Greenidge claims, and it ended the use of coal-fired power at the adjacent power facility during that time. The announcement on Thursday says the company plans to safely cap and close down the landfill and Greenidge hopes to install “a solar project across the 143-acre site that will produce up to 5MW of power.”

The bitcoin mining company says that the move is aligned with the firm’s efforts to improve the environment in New York. While it is working on projects like the Lockwood Hills landfill, Greenidge details it is purchasing voluntary carbon offsets from U.S. greenhouse gas reduction projects. Jeff Kirt, CEO of Greenidge, believes bitcoin mining models can advance operations in a way that keeps the environment safe.

“Bitcoin mining at Greenidge is already a model for the industry in that we are advancing this emerging financial platform for people across the world in a manner that fully protects our environment and drives economic growth across Upstate New York,” Kirt said in a statement. The move makes renewable energy a reality by leveraging bitcoin mining profits to fund the creation of a new solar farm at a landfill site, Kirt added.


Greenidge President Says Bitcoin Mining Adds Jobs, Supports Local Community and Can Help the Environment
Greenidge is just one of many crypto mining projects attempting to rejuvenate the environment by transforming business models and removing waste through the process. For instance, Stronghold Digital Mining converts waste coal into alternative energy in order to mine bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. At the end of May, EZ Blockchain partnered with a Texas-based oil provider to monetize wasted natural gas with bitcoin.

Before Greenidge’s acquisition in 2014, the Lockwood Landfill was permitted to hold coal combustion residuals (CCR) and other wastes. Greenidge details that it will ensure “the site will no longer accept waste of any kind,” add a water filtration system, and a permanent engineered membrane to stop erosion.

“For those of us who grew up and still live right here in the Finger Lakes, the Lockwood Hills landfill has been a constant presence, overlooking Seneca Lake and the Village of Dresden, and something we always hoped would eventually not be needed,” Greenidge president Dale Irwin said in a statement.

Irwin added that he was pleased that bitcoin mining facilities can not only create jobs and support local businesses, but crypto mining operations can also “facilitate the development of renewable energy at this old landfill site.”
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HCohen
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Enzo123 schreef op 1 augustus 2021 10:16:


[...]

Je begint de boel wel een beetje op te rekken zie ik, begin mei zei je dit:

'quote alias=HCohen id=13404414 date=202105031051:
Ik gun jullie grote successen en heb het idee dat er veel believers zitten op dit forum, maarruh ooit van tulpenbollen gehoord..? Bij de ECB omschrijven ze bitcoin letterlijk als tulpenbol.

Laten we hier over een jaartje op terugkomen..'

Moet je dan nu niet bijstellen van een jaar naar 9 maanden?

Regulering en fiscalisering betekent m.i. niks slechts, ik betaal altijd gewoon netjes belasting over mijn crypto's. Niks mis mee. Regulering betekent niet dat crypto's gaan verdwijnen, sterker nog, (meer) regulering zal ervoor zorgen dat crypto's onderdeel worden van de huidige economie.


Geen keuze Enzo, de wielen draaien langzaam(dat stelt me idd teleur).

Overigens is het nog geen mei 2022, toch(zie oa infrastructuurpakket US en recente pleidooien senator Warren en andere leden van de US Senate Banking Committee)..?
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Net als bij éénieder is mijn visie gebaseerd op waarschijnlijkheden, ik heb geen glazen bol...


Jij betaalt netjes je belasting Enzo(prima!), grensoverschrijdende controles en regulering is er (nog) niet en er zijn er heel veel die dat dus niet doen. Witwassen, fraude en criminele transacties 'are still rampant', maak je geen illusies.

Zoals je ook in mijn eerdere posts kunt zien gun ik jou je succes, maar ben ik niet voor crypto in haar huidige vorm en op de huidige niveaus. Daarna is het 'time will tell'.

Succes met de speculaties Enzo en andere 'tulpenbollen-liefhebbers' ;-) !

Enzo123
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Mooi om te zien hoe het gedecentraliseerde karakter van Bitcoin werkt: een paar maanden geleden nog paniek omdat miners uit China weg moeten, nu zie je dat ze naar o.a. Noord- en Zuid-Amerika trekken èn steeds meer naar schone energie migreren. Sterker nog, crypto's zijn een katalysator voor schone energie technologieën.
Enzo123
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Nog maar even een ouder berichtje in dit verband:

El Salvador to Mine Bitcoin With Energy From Volcanoes: '100% Clean, 100% Renewable, 0 Emissions'

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El Salvador has begun exploring bitcoin mining using energy from its volcanoes, President Nayib Bukele has revealed. “Our engineers just informed me that they dug a new well that will provide approximately 95MW of 100% clean, 0 emissions geothermal energy from our volcanos,” he detailed.

Bitcoin Mining Using Volcanoes’ Energy
El Salvador President Nayib Bukele announced on Twitter Wednesday: “I’ve just instructed the president of La Geo (our state-owned geothermal electric company) to put up a plan to offer facilities for bitcoin mining with very cheap, 100% clean, 100% renewable, 0 emissions energy from our volcanos. This is going to evolve fast.”

El Salvador to Mine Bitcoin With Energy From Volcanoes: '100% Clean, 100% Renewable, 0 Emissions'

The president soon followed up with another tweet that says:

Our engineers just informed me that they dug a new well that will provide approximately 95MW of 100% clean, 0 emissions geothermal energy from our volcanos. Starting to design a full bitcoin mining hub around it. What you see coming out of the well is pure water vapor.


Many bitcoiners welcome President Bukele’s decision to use energy from volcanoes to mine bitcoin, seeing it as a bullish move. Thousands of comments flooded his tweet with tens of thousands of likes and retweets at the time of writing. Among commenters was Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey who wrote: “Bitcoin incentivizes renewable energy.”

Microstrategy CEO Michael Saylor opined: “Bitcoin mining is the world’s best technology for converting energy into prosperity.” He added, “Bitcoin incentivizes renewable energy,” tagging Elon musk. Saylor recently hosted a meeting between the Tesla CEO and North American bitcoin miners to discuss mining using renewable energy. The miners agreed to form the Bitcoin Mining Council.


The president first revealed his bitcoin mining plans Wednesday morning on a Twitter Spaces room hosted by Nic Carter as the Salvadoran Congress discussed his bill to make bitcoin legal tender. More than 20,000 people tuned in to listen to the discussions hosted by Carter. The bill subsequently passed with a supermajority.

President Bukele was asked if he had any bitcoin mining plans. He mentioned that the country had plans to expand infrastructure and stimulate development around its source of geothermal energy. “On the outskirts of the plants, we want to promote industrial parks where you can set up your factory and you will receive cheap, clean, renewable [energy],” he described. He then suggested bitcoin miners might find these parks ideal given the close proximity to cheap, clean, electricity.

Morgan Creek Digital partner Anthony Pompliano commented: “The president of El Salvador is reporting that the country’s engineers have already dug a new well for their zero emissions bitcoin mining facility. This is less than 24 hours since the idea surfaced. Speed kills.”
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HCohen
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Enzo123 schreef op 1 augustus 2021 10:23:


Warren wordt veel gequote, maar er zijn machtshebbers in de VS die heel anders over crypto's denken:


US Senator Lummis: Big Government Spenders Are Accelerating Adoption of Crypto Assets Like Bitcoin

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Man, man man, deze GOP(/-Trump)senator is iemand waarvoor de term 'rat-poison' dus opgaat.
Ze moedigt mensen aan om voor diversificatie in hun portefeuille voor hun pensioen in Bitcoin te investeren
(zwaar speculatieve asset, ...you're kidding me... ).


Zij heeft flink geinvesteerd in crypto en zet tegelijkertijd politieke druk voor verdere acceptatie.
Imo komt dat neer op 'belangenverstrengeling en corrupt handelen'.

In elk geval is het zo dat de meerderheid op de Senate Banking committee daar dus anders tegenaan kijkt(bi-partisan) !

Enzo123
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Bitcoin Mining Report Claims Miner Energy Consumption Mix 56% Sustainable in Q2
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During the last three months, there’s been a significant focus on the effects bitcoin mining has on the global environment. While many have claimed bitcoin mining is bad for the environment and many others have stressed that it affects the environment in a positive way, either way, most are relying on unreliable and old data from a few years ago. On July 1, 2021, the recently formed Bitcoin Mining Council published a report that claims 56% of the hashrate uses sustainable energy resources.

Will Elon Musk Bend? Report Claims Bitcoin Miner Energy Consumption Mix 56% Sustainable
Bitcoiners are hoping Elon Musk has noticed a new report published by the Bitcoin Mining Council (BMC) that shows more than half of the hashrate leverages sustainable energy to mine bitcoin. BMC published the report on July 1, 2021, and as soon as it was online posts about Elon Musk changing his mind started to appear.

“Tesla said they wouldn’t again accept BTC until energy consumption reached 50% from renewables,” one Redditor said on Saturday. “Now that BTC uses 56% renewable energy, I wonder if Tesla will soon start accepting BTC again.” The ‘Tesla accepting bitcoin again’-Reddit post on r/bitcoin has clocked in more than 5,700 upvotes.

Bitcoin Mining Report Claims Miner Energy Consumption Mix 56% Sustainable in Q2

The BMC report explains that the organization collected information on miners leveraging sustainable energy from “over 32 percent of the current global Bitcoin network in its first-ever voluntary survey.” The results of the survey indicate that members of the BMC are utilizing electricity “with a 67% sustainable power mix.” The BMC report states:

Based on this data it is estimated that the global mining industry’s sustainable electricity mix had grown to approximately 56 percent, during Q2 2021, making it one of the most sustainable industries globally.


Microstrategy CEO: ‘Report Draws Data From Miners Around the World’
The data is very different from the Coinshares’ report published over three years ago and the unreliable data stemming from Cambridge Bitcoin Electricity Consumption Index (CBECI) and the digiconomist.net index. Both the digiconomist’s and Cambridge’s data have significant discrepancies between both electrical consumption estimates and both have mining maps that have not been updated since April 2020.

Microstrategy and its CEO, Michael Saylor, a member and founder of the BMC, said he was pleased to hear the results.

“I am pleased to see that the Bitcoin mining industry has come together, voluntarily, to provide critical information to the general public and policymakers, especially as it pertains to clarifying common misconceptions about the nature and scale of Bitcoin energy usage,” Saylor said. “This survey— the first quarterly release of many we expect to come— draws on data from miners around the world. As I’ve stated before, just because the Bitcoin network is decentralized doesn’t mean it has to be disorganized,” Saylor added.

The BMC is made up of members like Blockware Solutions, CCU.ai, Celsius Network, Compute North, Core Scientific, Enegix, Frontier Mining, Galaxy Digital, Hive Blockchain, Ankr, Argo Blockchain, Atnorth, Bit5ive LLC, Bitfarms, Bitfury, Bitquest, Bitriver, Blockcap, HMTech, Hut8, Marathon Digital Holdings, New Data Ventures LLC, Riot Blockchain, and SBI Crypto. BMC spokesperson Saylor also released a video that goes over some of the data found in the global mining report.
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HCohen
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Enzo123 schreef op 1 augustus 2021 10:51:


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Het heeft niet zoveel met politieke voorkeur te maken.



Nee dat klopt wel, ik heb slechts een allergie voor het hedendaagse GOP omdat er in die pertij zoveel 'ratten' zitten(kon het dus niet laten om de link met de partij te maken).

Maar net als met crypto is iedereen(gelukkig) vrij om ook dat anders te zien(leve Trump?! ;-) )

Ik had dat er niet bij hoeven zetten, maar kon het niet laten.
Enzo123
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Tenslotte, voor degenen die riepen dat Musk zijn bitcoin allang weer verkocht zou hebben:

Tesla Reveals Bitcoin Holdings Worth $1.3 Billion in Q2, $23 Million BTC Impairment

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Elon Musk’s electric car company, Tesla, is holding bitcoin worth $1.311 billion. The company did not buy or sell any bitcoin during the second quarter but recorded bitcoin-related impairment of $23 million. Tesla’s action reaffirms Musk’s prior statement that neither he nor Tesla had sold their coins.

Tesla’s Q2 Bitcoin Holdings
Elon Musk’s Tesla released its second-quarter earnings report Monday. The company’s Q2 2021 unaudited balance sheet shows a net digital asset value of $1.311 billion as of June 30.

Tesla Reveals Bitcoin Holdings Worth $1.3 Billion in Q2, $23 Million BTC Impairment
Tesla’s Q2 unaudited balance sheet showing the company’s net digital assets. Source: Tesla
Tesla Neither Purchased Nor Sold Bitcoin in Q2
Tesla did not buy or sell any bitcoin in the second quarter. The company’s Q2 unaudited statement of cash flows still shows that the only cryptocurrency purchase made was the $1.5 billion BTC purchase in Q1.

The cash flow statement also shows that the only time Tesla sold its bitcoin was in Q1 for $272 million. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously explained that the sale was to prove the liquidity of bitcoin, tweeting on June 13: “Tesla only sold ~10% of holdings to confirm BTC could be liquidated easily without moving market.”

Tesla Reveals Bitcoin Holdings Worth $1.3 Billion in Q2, $23 Million BTC Impairment
Tesla’s Q2 unaudited cash flow statement showing the company’s purchase and sale of bitcoin. Source: Tesla
In April, Tesla revealed in a filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) that its bitcoin stash was worth $2.5 billion.

$23 Million Bitcoin-Related Impairment
Tesla’s Q2 earnings report specifically mentions bitcoin once, under the “profitability” section which highlights items offsetting the company’s operating income, including “bitcoin-related impairment of $23M.”
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Enzo123
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Mijn berichtje over de burgemeester van New York is verdwenen, hierbij dus nog een keer:


Mayoral Front-Runner Vows to Make New York City the Bitcoin Center in One Year
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The New York City mayoral candidate in the lead, Eric Adams, has promised that in one year New York will be “the center of all technology,” including “the center of bitcoins.” He will compete with Miami where Mayor Francis Suarez had a head start turning Miami into a bitcoin hub.

Mayoral Candidate Promises to Turn New York City Into the Bitcoin Hub
The 2021 New York City mayoral election is underway. Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams, a former police officer, is currently in the lead. He led the first round of voting with 31.7% support. Civil rights lawyer Maya Wiley came second with 22.3%, followed by the city’s former sanitation commissioner, Kathryn Garcia, with 19.5%. Former presidential candidate Andrew Yang came in fourth with 11.7%.

During his election night party speech last week, Adams said:

I’m going to promise you. In one year, one year, you’re going to see a different city … We’re going to bring businesses here. We’re going to become the center of life science, the center of cybersecurity, the center of self-driving cars, drones, the center of bitcoins. We are going to be the center of all technology.

He added: “Miami, you had your run. We’re bringing our businesses back.”

In Florida, Miami Mayor Francis Suarez is a bitcoin hodler. He has also been trying to turn his city into a bitcoin hub. He has put forward a proposal to allow the city to pay its employees in bitcoin, accept the cryptocurrency for fees and taxes, and even explore the possibility of holding BTC on its balance sheet.

The city recently hosted the Bitcoin 2021 conference and blockchain.com just moved its headquarters there, which “created 300 new jobs and $30 million of recurring economic impact for our city,” Mayor Suarez said at the conference.


Another New York City mayoral candidate, Andrew Yang, also wants to turn NYC into a bitcoin hub. He said back in February: “As mayor of NYC — the world’s financial capital — I could invest in making the city a hub for BTC and other cryptocurrencies.”

However, the 46-year-old Democrat conceded the race last week. Nonetheless, he could still help the next mayor of NYC with bitcoin adoption as he said: “Though we’re not sure who’s the next mayor is going to be, but whoever that person is, I will be very happy to work with them to improve the lives of the 8.3 million people who live in our great city and I encourage everyone here to do the same.”
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HCohen
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Shark Tank’s Kevin O’Leary Won't Invest in Dogecoin, Says 'I Don’t Understand Why Anybody Would'

Shark Tank star Kevin O’Leary, aka Mr. Wonderful, says he does not consider dogecoin an investment. “I don’t participate in that kind of thing. I don’t understand why anybody would,” he said.

Kevin O’Leary Won’t Invest in Dogecoin
Shark Tank star Kevin O’Leary talked about the meme cryptocurrency dogecoin in an interview with CNBC last week. The chairman of O’Shares ETFs said:

I don’t participate in that kind of thing. I don’t understand why anybody would, but that’s their own choice.

He explained that investing in dogecoin is like gambling in Las Vegas, noting that he might not even call it “investing” at all.

The Shark Tank star explained that when someone invests in a stock, they are betting on the company’s ability to execute its business plan and achieve its goals. In contrast, he said that there is no informed decision making with dogecoin as buyers are simply hoping that the price of the cryptocurrency will increase. In addition, dogecoin has an unlimited supply, unlike bitcoin.

O’Leary suggested: “Maybe you should consider it entertainment because there’s no inherent value in it other than what other people want to do as they speculate.” He elaborated:

When you speculate on something like dogecoin, that’s no different than going to Las Vegas and putting your money on red or black. It’s pure speculation.
Enzo123
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HCohen schreef op 1 augustus 2021 11:40:


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Shark Tank’s Kevin O’Leary Won't Invest in Dogecoin, Says 'I Don’t Understand Why Anybody Would'

Shark Tank star Kevin O’Leary, aka Mr. Wonderful, says he does not consider dogecoin an investment. “I don’t participate in that kind of thing. I don’t understand why anybody would,” he said.

Kevin O’Leary Won’t Invest in Dogecoin
Shark Tank star Kevin O’Leary talked about the meme cryptocurrency dogecoin in an interview with CNBC last week. The chairman of O’Shares ETFs said:

I don’t participate in that kind of thing. I don’t understand why anybody would, but that’s their own choice.

He explained that investing in dogecoin is like gambling in Las Vegas, noting that he might not even call it “investing” at all.

The Shark Tank star explained that when someone invests in a stock, they are betting on the company’s ability to execute its business plan and achieve its goals. In contrast, he said that there is no informed decision making with dogecoin as buyers are simply hoping that the price of the cryptocurrency will increase. In addition, dogecoin has an unlimited supply, unlike bitcoin.

O’Leary suggested: “Maybe you should consider it entertainment because there’s no inherent value in it other than what other people want to do as they speculate.” He elaborated:

When you speculate on something like dogecoin, that’s no different than going to Las Vegas and putting your money on red or black. It’s pure speculation.

Ik ben het helemaal eens met Kevin. Overigens is dit het Bitcoin forum, niet het Dogecoin forum. Die 2 kun je niet over 1 kam scheren.
HCohen
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Enzo123 schreef op 1 augustus 2021 11:54:


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Ik ben het helemaal eens met Kevin. Overigens is dit het Bitcoin forum, niet het Dogecoin forum. Die 2 kun je niet over 1 kam scheren.


Mooi man, zijn we het(samen met Kevin) toch dan maar een keer met elkaar eens ;-).

Overigens worden alle crypto(breed) hier regelmatig besproken door voor- en tegenstanders en niet slechts Bitcoin.


efreddy
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Enzo123 schreef op 1 augustus 2021 11:54:


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Ik ben het helemaal eens met Kevin. Overigens is dit het Bitcoin forum, niet het Dogecoin forum. Die 2 kun je niet over 1 kam scheren.


Ik ben het met hem eens dat hij niet in Doge investeert en niet begrijpt waarom anderen dat wel doen maar hij begrijpt Doge niet wanneer hij met Las Vegas vergelijkt.
Ik heb wel Doge en daar is niets Las Vegas aan,net als BTC zal ik ook altijd Doge aanhouden en natuurlijk zijn er verschillen,als die er niet waren zou er geen enkele reden zijn waarom de marketcap van BTC ruim 23 keer hoger ligt .
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