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5,18 pfff...dit gaat hard...wilde bijna nog kopen op 5,60 zeg, gelukkig niet gedaan.
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After Hours: 4.98 Down -0.12 (-2.35%)

November 12, 2008
In the Land of Duh!: Moody's Downgrades Las Vegas Sands (LVS)

Las_vegas_sands_logo Moody's had had the corporate debt ratings of Las Vegas Sands Corp.(NYSE: LVS) on review for possible downgrade since mid-July. Just today, the debt ratings agency announced that it has lowered the corporate debt ratings of the casino operator. Furthermore, the ratings were also placed on review for possible further downgrade(s). In mid-July the stock traded as low as the $30's and rallied later in July and August to see $50.00+ again. Shares have been trading at under $5.00 today. When will the timeliness of ratings agencies finally be challenged by oversight or by regulatory agencies?

The Moody's downgrade reflects the casino operator's considerable leverage, the continuation of significant negative trends in Las Vegas, and an expectation that these trends will continue in the foreseeable future. it further considers recent visitation restrictions in Macao which will probably slow its growth at least until the Chinese government decides to relax restrictions there.

The ratings agency did positively note the delay in capital spending, and combined with the recent capital raise program should alleviate concerns related to liquidity and covenant compliance. But the review for possible further downgrade(s) considers that the proposed capital raise has not closed and is in final stages of a $2.1 billion injection. A failure to successfully raise adequate new capital would likely result in a debt covenant default and could jeopardize the company's ability to operate as a going concern. The risk is that the ratings could be further taken down by several notches.

Moody's decided to take a consolidated approach to rating Las Vegas Sands and all of its operating
subsidiaries. Below are the downgrades:

* Corporate family rating to B2 from Ba3
* Probability of default rating to B2 from Ba3
* $250 million 6.375% senior notes to B2 from Ba3

Venetian Casino Resort, LLC (and its co-issuer Las Vegas Sands, LLC) ratings lowered and placed on review for possible downgrade:

* $1 billion revolver expiring 2012 to B2 from Ba3
* $3 billion term loan due 2014 to B2 from Ba3
* $600 million delay draw term loan due 2014 to B2 from Ba3
* $400 million delay draw term loan due 2013 to B2 from Ba3

Venetian Macao Limited ratings lowered and placed on review for possible downgrade:

* $700 million revolver expiring 2011 to B2 from B1
* $1.8 billion term loan due 2013 to B2 from B1
* $100 million term loan due 2011 to B2 from B1
* $700 million delay draw term loan due 2012 to B2 from B1

When you add all this up you can see the mountain of debt that the company already has. But you can also see that this downgrade from moderate junk status down deeper into junk status is also about as timely as a broken watch. Moody's and S&P both operate under "taking the new facts into consideration and how the new developments will affect their credit quality ahead." But when you see this you also wonder how much longer investors will even care what the ratings agencies have to say.
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skippy44 schreef:

After Hours: 4.98 Down -0.12 (-2.35%)

November 12, 2008
In the Land of Duh!: Moody's Downgrades Las Vegas Sands (LVS)

Las_vegas_sands_logo Moody's had had the corporate debt ratings of Las Vegas Sands Corp.(NYSE: LVS) on review for possible downgrade since mid-July. Just today, the debt ratings agency announced that it has lowered the corporate debt ratings of the casino operator. Furthermore, the ratings were also placed on review for possible further downgrade(s). In mid-July the stock traded as low as the $30's and rallied later in July and August to see $50.00+ again. Shares have been trading at under $5.00 today. When will the timeliness of ratings agencies finally be challenged by oversight or by regulatory agencies?

The Moody's downgrade reflects the casino operator's considerable leverage, the continuation of significant negative trends in Las Vegas, and an expectation that these trends will continue in the foreseeable future. it further considers recent visitation restrictions in Macao which will probably slow its growth at least until the Chinese government decides to relax restrictions there.

The ratings agency did positively note the delay in capital spending, and combined with the recent capital raise program should alleviate concerns related to liquidity and covenant compliance. But the review for possible further downgrade(s) considers that the proposed capital raise has not closed and is in final stages of a $2.1 billion injection. A failure to successfully raise adequate new capital would likely result in a debt covenant default and could jeopardize the company's ability to operate as a going concern. The risk is that the ratings could be further taken down by several notches.

Moody's decided to take a consolidated approach to rating Las Vegas Sands and all of its operating
subsidiaries. Below are the downgrades:

* Corporate family rating to B2 from Ba3
* Probability of default rating to B2 from Ba3
* $250 million 6.375% senior notes to B2 from Ba3

Venetian Casino Resort, LLC (and its co-issuer Las Vegas Sands, LLC) ratings lowered and placed on review for possible downgrade:

* $1 billion revolver expiring 2012 to B2 from Ba3
* $3 billion term loan due 2014 to B2 from Ba3
* $600 million delay draw term loan due 2014 to B2 from Ba3
* $400 million delay draw term loan due 2013 to B2 from Ba3

Venetian Macao Limited ratings lowered and placed on review for possible downgrade:

* $700 million revolver expiring 2011 to B2 from B1
* $1.8 billion term loan due 2013 to B2 from B1
* $100 million term loan due 2011 to B2 from B1
* $700 million delay draw term loan due 2012 to B2 from B1

When you add all this up you can see the mountain of debt that the company already has. But you can also see that this downgrade from moderate junk status down deeper into junk status is also about as timely as a broken watch. Moody's and S&P both operate under "taking the new facts into consideration and how the new developments will affect their credit quality ahead." But when you see this you also wonder how much longer investors will even care what the ratings agencies have to say.
Flink herstel hier nu, 6,40!
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paulta schreef:

hollandcasino draait ook gewoon rode cijfers dit jaar.
www.pokercity.nl
ik kan me echter niet herinneren dat een casino het loodje legt....
8:25 AM Las Vegas Sands (LVS) is up 17.4% premarket. Having raised $2.1B in last week's stock offering, it says in an 8-K "the substantial doubt about the Company's ability to continue as a going concern has been removed."
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Durver72* schreef:

[quote=skippy44]
After Hours: 4.98 Down -0.12 (-2.35%)

November 12, 2008
In the Land of Duh!: Moody's Downgrades Las Vegas Sands (LVS)

[/quote]Flink herstel hier nu, 6,40!
En na het herstel een nieuwe 52 week low.
Hopelijk valt dit Abk (Moody's Downgrades Abk)ook niet te beurt zoals hier, eerst flink pumpen om 2 à 3 dagen later al op lagere koersen te zitten.

4.39 Down 0.68 (13.41%)
Day's Range: 4.22 - 5.02
52wk Range: 4.32 - 122.96
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mvdh schreef:

finance.google.ca/finance?q=NYSE%3Alvs

Verwacht dat het aandeel langzaam zakt tot 8USD, heeft de laatste dagen een aardige rally gemaakt. Rond de 8USD overwegen om te kopen voor de LT. Lijkt mij een aandeel.

gr
3,03 nu ( en met enorm volume!) -------- weer 20% naar onder, ongelooflijk alles moet kapot lijkt het!
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racer nr1. schreef:

[quote=mvdh]

finance.google.ca/finance?q=NYSE%3Alvs

Verwacht dat het aandeel langzaam zakt tot 8USD, heeft de laatste dagen een aardige rally gemaakt. Rond de 8USD overwegen om te kopen voor de LT. Lijkt mij een aandeel.

gr
[/quote]3,03 nu ( en met enorm volume!) -------- weer 20% naar onder, ongelooflijk alles moet kapot lijkt het!
+147% sedert $3.03 alles moet kapot...........
$7.50 Change:+1.23 +19.62%
Volume:27,931,498

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LVS 8.10 USD 1.01(14.25%) deze was naar 3$ geklapt laatst maar nu met enorm volume aan een megarun dag na dag bezig...dik 8 al nu weer!
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Nu ,5.92 +0.11 (1.89%) Real-time: 12:45PM EST. Heeft ook de laatste tijd weer wat ingeleverd, in tijden van crisis gaan mensen gokken. Of is de concurrent MGM MIRAGE koopwaardiger voor een ritje naar boven.

gr
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mvdh schreef:

Nu ,5.92 +0.11 (1.89%) Real-time: 12:45PM EST. Heeft ook de laatste tijd weer wat ingeleverd, in tijden van crisis gaan mensen gokken. Of is de concurrent MGM MIRAGE koopwaardiger voor een ritje naar boven.

gr
ondertussen in paar dagen alweer zo,n 25% eraf op 4,40 nu! alles moet kapot en ten onder.
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durvinvest schreef:

[quote=mvdh]
Nu ,5.92 +0.11 (1.89%) Real-time: 12:45PM EST. Heeft ook de laatste tijd weer wat ingeleverd, in tijden van crisis gaan mensen gokken. Of is de concurrent MGM MIRAGE koopwaardiger voor een ritje naar boven.

gr
[/quote]ondertussen in paar dagen alweer zo,n 25% eraf op 4,40 nu! alles moet kapot en ten onder.
LVS 4.36 USD -0.79(-15.34%)
mvdh
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durvinvest schreef:

[quote=durvinvest ]
[quote=mvdh]
Nu ,5.92 +0.11 (1.89%) Real-time: 12:45PM EST. Heeft ook de laatste tijd weer wat ingeleverd, in tijden van crisis gaan mensen gokken. Of is de concurrent MGM MIRAGE koopwaardiger voor een ritje naar boven.

gr
[/quote]ondertussen in paar dagen alweer zo,n 25% eraf op 4,40 nu! alles moet kapot en ten onder.
[/quote]LVS 4.36 USD -0.79(-15.34%)
3.96
-0.41 (-9.38%)
Real-time: 1:24PM EST

MGM ook fors omlaag op een downgrade. Als MGM nog verder wegzakt pak ik er een paar op.

gr
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durfinvest schreef:

LVS 2.95 USD .....wordt dit niet een beetje extreem laag nu???
Zie de concurrent MGM eens, After Hours: 3.94 -0.16 (-3.90%). 6 jan. stonden ze nog op 16usd, even kijken waar het de bodem zal vormen.

gr

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mvdh schreef:

Zie de concurrent MGM eens, After Hours: 3.94 -0.16 (-3.90%). 6 jan. stonden ze nog op 16usd,

ongelooflijk alles moet kapot, ze dumpen alles wat met een aandeel te maken heeft naar de kelder.
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mvdh schreef:

finance.google.ca/finance?q=NYSE%3Alvs

Verwacht dat het aandeel langzaam zakt tot 8USD, heeft de laatste dagen een aardige rally gemaakt. Rond de 8USD overwegen om te kopen voor de LT. Lijkt mij een aandeel.

gr
LVS 2.38 USD -0.37(-13.45%) ....of misschien toch beter nu kopen voor de LT ??
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