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Chiddix schreef op 21 juli 2013 22:18:

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Willem Middelkoop heeft mazzel ,dat de sterren te ver weg staan. Met z on overschot aan goud zou zijn goudfonds weinig meer waard zijn.
Jammer dat men niet short kan gaan op dat rommelfonds..
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Willempie3 schreef op 20 juli 2013 18:05:

De crisis kwam in Amerika de eerste paar jaar gewoon veel harder aan als in Europa. Tent-cities hebben we hier niet gehad, al komt dat nu wel in Zuid-Europa. In Amerika gaat het nu beter terwijl het in Europa minder gaat. Dus verliest de Brent terrein op de WTI.
Dan heeft Amerika ook nog regels die het min of meer verbieden om olie te exporteren. Als dan de vraag terugloopt met 3 miljoen vaten per dag en er thuis ook nog 1 of 2 miljoen vaten per dag extra geproduceerd worden kan de eigen WTI-olieprijs zomaar 20 Dollar lager liggen dan de Brent-olieprijs.

W3.
blablablablabla, ik wil graag alles verklaren zonder er moeite voor te doen dus lul ik gewoon wat over een verband die er zou zijn kwa economie en olieprijs ook al komt die duidelijk niet overeen met de data, blablablabla.

een waarschijnlijkere verklaring:

No sooner has one logistical kink been worked out of the market than a new one has appeared, albeit temporarily, highlighting how the turbulence that has roiled domestic oil markets for years is far from over as the industry struggles to adapt its infrastructure to the unyielding surge in shale.

"You have three different markets interacting but they are not perfectly arbitraging," said Sarah Emerson, director of Energy Security Analysis Inc in Boston, referring to international benchmark Brent futures, U.S. West Texas Intermediate futures, and LLS.

DIVERGENCE

While global markets have this month been focused on the renewed convergence of WTI and Brent futures, Brent and LLS - considered a more accurate spread for determines the economics of importing foreign crude oil into America's biggest refining center - have rarely been further apart.
www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/22/us...
Smurf In het Smurfenbos
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Goeie morgen,

Mooiman, RSI laten afkoelen koers hoog houden en dan sprong up maken. Door de dalende trendlijn heen, her-testje, bodem aanstampen en voor je het weet..

gr.
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Altona Mining hits high grade copper and gold in Finland

Altona Mining has had some more exploration success at the company's Kylylahti underground mine in south east Finland and is part of the Outokumpu Project which commenced production in early 2012.

The highlights, which are all adjacent to mine development, include:
1. Upper Wallaby zone extends deeper and higher grade; 14.8 meters at 4.0% copper;
2. Lower Wombat zone extends higher and is thicker; 18.4 meters at 2.3% copper and
3. High grade gold hits in hanging wall of Wallaby; 11 meters at 16.1 gram per tonne gold.

The Kylylahti deposit comprises two zones, an upper zone termed Wallaby and a lower zone named Wombat with the gap between these two zones recently subjected to intensive drilling.

Kylylahti achieved design production rates in H2 2012, with expansion currently under consideration by Altona. The life of mine production (over 6.5 years) is 550,000 tonne per annum ore for copper: 8,000 tonne per annum of gold: 8,400 ozpa and inc, 1,600 tonne per annum.

Source - Proactive Investors
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Gold eases after four day rally as firm dollar hurts

Reuters reported that gold slipped as investors took profits after a sharp four day rally pushed prices up to a one month top in the previous session while a firm US dollar also hurt sentiment.

Bullion added nearly 6% in the past four sessions biggest such rise since October 2011 as receding worries of an imminent cut to the US Federal Reserve's stimulus burnished the precious metal's appeal as a hedge against inflation.

The Fed has said that it will only start phasing out its stimulus once it is sure the economy is strong enough to stand on its own.

Spot gold dropped 0.5% to USD 1,341.16 an ounce by 0655 GMT after rising to a one month peak on Tuesday as speculators bought back bearish bets ahead of an option expiry later this week.

Mr Peter Fung head of dealing at Hong Kong's Wing Fung Precious Metals said that "The selling interest is prompted by profit taking. Weak data from China dragged on sentiment across financial markets, while a US dollar recovery hurt assets priced in the greenback by making them more expensive for holders of other currencies.”

A preliminary survey showed that activity in China's manufacturing sector slowed to an 11 month low in July suggesting the world's No.2 economy is still losing momentum.

Phillip Futures analysts said that "Prices are far off from the next level of resistance at USD 1,370 and we expect the positive momentum to taper today. Comex gold gained about USD 6 to USD 1,341.00 after a small decline in the previous session. Silver, platinum and palladium tracked gold lower.

Source - Reuters

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Minera Gold identifies two mineralised targets at Tumi gold project in Peru

Minera Gold has identified two discrete mineralized targets within its wholly owned Tumi gold project in southern Peru.

Tumi covers 3,400 hectares is located about 35 kilometers from the company’s lead asset, the Torrecillas Gold Project and is about 6 kilometers inland from the Pan American Highway and Pacific Ocean.

Review of historical exploration as well as first pass surface mapping and channel sampling have identified a disseminated gold (copper silver) breccia hosted mineralization linked to a bigger hydrothermal system at depth as well as a high grade narrow vein system that is interpreted to be the extension of the neighbouring San Francisco mine.

Trench and channel sampling of a 1.6 square kilometer area returned an average grade of 2.16 grams per tonne gold, 0.6 gram per tonne silver and 0.1% copper. Surface work also traced the outcropping mineralization 250 meters vertically down the side of the cliff.

Material channel samples returned 7.41 gram per tonne gold over 2 meters, 7.91 gram per tonne gold over 0.3 meters and 5.17 gram per tonne gold over 2 meters.

Re assay of historical scout diamond drill core samples have returned:
1. 8.98 gram per tonne gold, 0.8 gram per tonne silver and 0.41% copper over 0.40 meters from 67.8 meters;
2. 6.18 gram per tonne gold, 0.3 gram per tonne silver and 0.04% copper over 0.35 meters from 69.8 meters and
3. 5.40 gram per tonne gold, 1.2 gram per tonne silver and 0.07% copper over 1.6 meters from 40.2 meters.

While the Tumi concessions were acquired in 2007 as part of the asset package that included the Torrecillas Gold Project, this is the first detailed exploration report for the project.

Source - Proactive Investors

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Ecuador Gold and Copper shares gain on surge in Condor project resources

Shares of Ecuador Gold & Copper Corporation surged after the Toronto based explorer updated its mineral resource estimate for the Condor project in southeast Ecuador which in some cases more than tripled resources.

Indicated gold resources expanded by 39 per cent from the previous estimate to 82.7 million tonnes at 0.76 grams per tonne gold or 2.0 million contained ounces of the yellow metal, while inferred gold resources jumped 240% to 241.2 million tonnes at 0.56 grams per tonne gold for 4.4 million ounces.

The large increase in inferred ounces is mainly a result of the continued expansion of the Santa Barbara south zone which holds 4.0 million ounces of the total inferred resource.

The Canadian junior said that with results to be released when available. The company is planning to release another updated resource report at Santa Barbara by the end of October.

A maiden inferred copper resource estimate was also calculated for the El Hito copper molybdenum deposit, 5 kilometers east of Santa Barbara for 161 million tonnes grading 0.31% copper or 1.1 billion contained pounds of the metal.

The new resource estimates were completed by Phil Jones of Al Maynard and Associates and include drill results from just over 10,000 meters of new drilling since last August and all assays up to the end of May.

Mr Mr Glenn Laing president and CEO of Ecuador Gold & Copper said that "The updated resource estimate at Condor represents a substantial increase in the company's resource base. We estimate that our cost of discovery of new ounces on this well endowed 8,300 hectare concession to be on the order of USD 2.00 per ounce to date. We are extremely encouraged by the results from our initial 13,000m Phase I drill program and further new results at Santa Barbara."

Source - Proactive Investors.com
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Smurf In het Smurfenbos
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reposailleurs schreef op 25 juli 2013 18:23:

Ik geloof er weer in, als ABN zegt dat Goud het gaat dalen weten we meestal hoe laat het is. Instappen.. marketupdate.nl/nieuws/goud-en-zilver...
Yep ook gelezen. Maar ik hoor geen motivatie behalve dat we in aandelen zouden moeten stappen? En het is een feit dat analisten pas op de bodem negatief worden en op de top positief.. Dus neem ik het ABN Amro verhaal met een grote korrel zout.. Maar 840 is toch echt wat overdreven, laten we eerst maar eens de 1150 opzoeken, als die al komt.

Gr
Smurf In het Smurfenbos
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Even voor de duidelijkheid.

Short posities vind ik niet valide in een uit bodeming. long posities zijn alleen aan de orde als in de 4 uurs, de dag en de week na gelang je stoploss onder een veilig niveau zit.

voor mij is de dag stoploss in de long 1085 en het echte werk zit in de 997 long stoploss.

Geen dalende fibo's op vangen altijd een 2 of 3x daar onder...

En goud en olie wisselen altijd. Dus let op de correlatie. Corne onze oude grafieken fan wist altijd een mooie grafiek van olie vs goud te produceren. Ja ik mis hem wel.

wat er in goud zit is een exponentiele ondergrond. In de voorgaande jaren waren er ook enorme dalingen en stijgingen alleen die zijn op de tijdslijn in log te volgen. Nu de laatste jaren vanaf 2002 blijkt de vergroting ineens veel hoger te zijn. (Dit geld ook voor de S&P) We zitten dus in een vergroting van de grafiek en zo moet je het zien.

Wat ik wel graag zou willen weten is het referentie kader van de ouden onder ons en dan specifiek de omgang van goud in de jaren 70,80 ten opzichte van de stijgende economie.

Ik vraag me af of de geschiedenis, zoals in de jaren 80 wel herhaalbaar is.(stelling)

He Gr.

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Ole's dadalife schreef op 26 juli 2013 00:43:

Even voor de duidelijkheid.

Short posities vind ik niet valide in een uit bodeming. long posities zijn alleen aan de orde als in de 4 uurs, de dag en de week na gelang je stoploss onder een veilig niveau zit.

voor mij is de dag stoploss in de long 1085 en het echte werk zit in de 997 long stoploss.

Geen dalende fibo's op vangen altijd een 2 of 3x daar onder...

En goud en olie wisselen altijd. Dus let op de correlatie. Corne onze oude grafieken fan wist altijd een mooie grafiek van olie vs goud te produceren. Ja ik mis hem wel.

wat er in goud zit is een exponentiele ondergrond. In de voorgaande jaren waren er ook enorme dalingen en stijgingen alleen die zijn op de tijdslijn in log te volgen. Nu de laatste jaren vanaf 2002 blijkt de vergroting ineens veel hoger te zijn. (Dit geld ook voor de S&P) We zitten dus in een vergroting van de grafiek en zo moet je het zien.

Wat ik wel graag zou willen weten is het referentie kader van de ouden onder ons en dan specifiek de omgang van goud in de jaren 70,80 ten opzichte van de stijgende economie.

Ik vraag me af of de geschiedenis, zoals in de jaren 80 wel herhaalbaar is.(stelling)

He Gr.

srsroccoreport.com/the-precious-metal...

SILVER-OIL RATIO

1936 = 2.4 oz of silver to purchase a barrel of oil

2013 = 4.1 oz of silver to purchase a barrel of oil

For the price of silver today to equal the same ratio to oil as it was in 1936, an ounce of silver would be worth $44.09. However, that price will turn out to be very conservative in the future when we factor in the huge amount of industrial demand as well as the smaller above ground available stocks today compared to gold. Now, if we do the same with gold, this would be the result:

GOLD-OIL RATIO (Gold at $20.67 in 1932 & $35 in 1936)

1932 = 24 barrels of oil would equal an oz of gold

1936 = 32 barrels of oil would equal an oz of gold

2013 = 14 barrels of oil would equal an oz of gold

Here we can see that an ounce of gold could purchase 10 more barrels of oil in 1932 (before the revaluation in 1934 to $35) than it does today. If gold had the same buying power in regards to oil in 1932 as it does today, the price of gold would be $2,576. To get the 2013 ratios for gold and silver, I used the current average 2013 price per Kitco (silver was $26.29 and gold was $1,503)
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Gold pares losses ahead of US option expiry jobs data

Reuters reported that gold mostly reversed earlier losses as investors pulled bearish bets ahead of a COMEX option expiry and awaited US jobs data later in the day to help gauge the outlook for the Federal Reserve's stimulus measures.

Positive housing data from the United States that dented bullion's safe haven appeal and raised fears of an early end to the Fed stimulus kept the metal's gains in check.

According to COMEX owner CME Group, a sharp sell off in gold prices since mid April has sparked growing interest in using gold options to profit from increased volatility. The open interest in US COMEX gold options rose to a record high of more than 1.8 million contracts earlier this week.

A Hong Kong based trader said that "There is a big open interest around USD 1,300 and USD 1,310 which might stall the sell off."

Spot gold fell 0.07% to USD 1,319.76 an ounce after falling as much as 0.4% earlier. COMEX gold was up slightly at USD 1,319.90.

Traders were also reluctant to take big bets ahead of US weekly jobless claims data to be released at 1230 GMT. Economic data has become a key factor in determining when the Fed would start tapering its USD 85 billion monthly bond purchases.

Source - Reuters

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