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Jemig wat is het opeens stil hier.. Uitgestopt jongens? Dat zal jullie leren. There's no such thing as free lunch.
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High Finance schreef op 20 april 2018 13:32:

Dat waren een heleboel stops.

Herhaling: live AGM: twitter.com/ajnarsee
Dank… aan het volgen momenteel...
DeZwarteRidder
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Aarti Narsee
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Van Der Merwe: current debt of Group:
Debt cluster in SA, €1,4bn.
Europe, €8,7bn;

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Plan to announce interim unaudited results in June 2018. The full year audited group results will be released at the end of January 2019

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Update on PwC investigation into accounting irregularities. The group has given them an unrestricted scope and so far over 4 million records and documents have been looked at closely
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PWC confirmed that a pattern of transactions have taken place over a many years, leading to overstatement of income and assets. The investigation is expected to be completed at end of 2018
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Van der Merwe: What happened in December plunged us into a liquidity crisis. We had to divest a number of assets to stay afloat. Our total debt is now € 10.4 billion #SteinhoffAGM
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Deze collectie tonen
EWN Reporter
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#SteinhoffAGM Acting group CEO Danie van der Merwe : Outstanding debt is Euro 10.4bn. No dividends will be paid. GD

Van Der Merwe: since facing liquidity crisis, we est:
- a near term liquidity forecast
- realized selected assets in SA and Europe

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Van Der Merwe: extra measures had to be put in place, incl a restructuring committee #SteinhoffAGM
hirshi
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Over volatiliteit gesproken:

13.20 uur - high € 0,2196
13.27 uur - low € 0,127

Nu plm. € 0,185

Tjonge jonge wat een sprongen!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DizwZ0uOX5A
DeZwarteRidder
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EWN Reporter
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#SteinhoffAGM PwC porbe started Dec 2017; 4.4m records & more than 320 000 documents form part of it; interviews have been conducted with certain people (not named). GD

German proceedings relate to ownership interests in POCO. They are contesting the existing forfeiture of their 50% shareholding . Hearings scheduled on 25 April 2018 #SteinhoffAGM

#SteinhoffAGM Commercial director Louis du Preez says outcome of extensive forensic investigation by PricewaterhouseCoopers expected to be "substantially completed" by year-end. GD

Also Similar proceedings instituted in Germany. We also have several other entities threatening the group with claims, but no formal proceedings have been instituted #SteinhoffAGM
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Du Preez: VEB, Dutch Investors Association intiatws proceedings against the global retailer for declaratory relief in relation to alleged damages suffered by those shareholders #SteinhoffAGM

Because of the number of documents spanning a number of financial years, the PwC report is only expected to be concluded by January 2019 #SteinhoffAGM
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Shyman
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@ DeZwarteRidder gaat die duidelijkheid over cijfers 2015 en 2016 of ook over 2017? Niet veel tijd om echt mee te volgen, dus heel blij met reacties via forum
High Finance
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DeZwarteRidder schreef op 20 april 2018 14:01:

Dus er komt pas duidelijkheid in jan. 2019....!!!
Dat was al een tijdje bekend.
DeZwarteRidder
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Shyzus schreef op 20 april 2018 14:05:

@ DeZwarteRidder gaat die duidelijkheid over cijfers 2015 en 2016 of ook over 2017? Niet veel tijd om echt mee te volgen, dus heel blij met reacties via forum
2017 kan pas afgemaakt worden als de cijfers over 2014 t/m 2016 vast staan.
Over 2017 komen voorlopige cijfers uit.
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''Sonn responds: While the investigation is ongoing, PwC has been able to say to us that none of the current members of our supervisory board and management board are implicated in what happened''

Dit geeft toch wel vertrouwen aan. Versterkt mijn vraag naar hoe Markus Jooste in godensnaam in zijn eentje Steinhoff zo voor het blok heeft kunnen zetten.
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High Finance schreef op 20 april 2018 13:32:

Herhaling: live AGM: twitter.com/ajnarsee
Gaat er leuk aan toe:

"German representative claps hands for the management and supervisory board (in sarcasm) and then asks his questions"
Shyman
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LIVE: Forensic probe confirms Steinhoff overstated income and assets
2018-04-20 12:51
Jan Cronje
Four months after its share price plunged and its CEO Markus Jooste resigned, Steinhoff is facing questions from shareholders at its Annual General Meeting.

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Steinhoff says it is constantly monitoring its liquidity to make sure that it has cash in hand.

It adds it will hold formal lenders meeting in May to discuss a restructuring plan.

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"I wish I could say what I think. But I don't think that is appropriate right now'.

That is how Steinhoff's acting chair Heather Sonn reacted to a questions about who had lied to whom around Steinhoff's financials.

She says that it would not be appropriate for her to give her personal views, given that PwC is conducting an independent forensic investigation into the firm.

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Steinhoff again clarifies that its auditor Deloitte has asked that it gets the final copy of the PwC forensic report before it publishes its audited results for 2017.

Tjeerdo
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Gaat wel goed komen als ik dat zo hoor...

Behalve dan voor Jooste, enkeltje Zuid-Afrikaanse gevangenis wat mij betreft zonder voorkeursbehandeling...
DeZwarteRidder
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Motheo Khoaripe
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#SteinhoffAGM : Steinhoff says PwC's investigations into its operations has confirmed a pattern of transactions, done over a number of years, that have led to the material OVERSTATEMENT of the Income and Assets values of the group.
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DeZwarteRidder schreef op 20 april 2018 15:15:

Motheo Khoaripe
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#SteinhoffAGM : Steinhoff says PwC's investigations into its operations has confirmed a pattern of transactions, done over a number of years, that have led to the material OVERSTATEMENT of the Income and Assets values of the group.
Bij dit soort zaken vraag ik mij altijd af, waarom fraudeurs zoiets doen, terwijl ze kunnen weten dat zoiets altijd uitkomt.

Bovendien was Jooste al rijk voordat hij begon met frauderen, waarom ga je dan alles op het spel zetten...??
DeZwarteRidder
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Steinhoff scandal

Manager Magazin reported in August 2017 that Jooste was being investigated by German authorities. In response Steinhoff's price slumped by 16% on the JSE, but recovered after the company denied the allegations. This was followed by allegations of accounting impropriety made by Steinhoff's former POCO subsidiary.

Jooste's December 2017 resignation as CEO of Steinhoff came as the company admitted to "accounting irregularities" within the group. In a letter to staff on his resignation, Jooste apologized for "big mistakes" and that he had caused bad publicity for the company. Between 5 and 7 December Steinhoff's share price plunged from R46.25 to R10, and its bonds fell in line.

It was soon labeled as the biggest corporate scandal in South African history and the biggest corporate crash in the country's history. As a result of Jooste's resignation, $11.4 billion was wiped off the value of the global furniture and clothing retailer. This in turn had a ripple effect on several other companies, including its subsidiary Steinhoff Africa Retail (Star), which may have guaranteed some of Steinhoff's debt. In seven days of trading, the Johannesburg exchange was hit by losses totaling about R295 billion ($24 billion), equivalent to 8% of South Africa's GDP.

In a letter to staff on his resignation, Jooste apologized for "big mistakes" and that he had caused bad publicity for the company. Steinhoff's share price dipped to R4.50 (down from R51.40 on 1 December) when the company's accumulated debt of R161 billion ($12.8 billion) was revealed. By late December, Steinhoff shares were on the brink of collapse, as management could not ascertain the magnitude of accounting irregularities, or provide assurances concerning individual companies' cash flows. Steinhoff however won approval to roll over €690m of its financing, and its US subsidiary Mattress Firm secured a loan of $225m from Barclays. Steinhoff also sold PSG shares worth R4.7 billion to increase liquidity.

The German raid of 2015 recovered documents supposedly signed by Andreas Seifert, co-managing director of furniture chain XXXLutz. Seifert denied ever having seen or signed the papers, and filed criminal charges for document forgery.

In the wake of the scandal media articles identified Jooste's supposed mistress and provided revelations such as that he had been nicknamed The Seagull "because he would fly in, shit all over his executives and then fly out."
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Five takeaways from the AGM so far:

1. Probe confirms Steinhoff overstated income and assets

An independent and "unrestricted" investigation by PwC has uncovered the overstatement of income and assets at Steinhoff, its Annual General Meeting in the Netherlands. "[The investigation] confirmed a pattern of transactions undertaken over a number of years across avariety of assets classes that led to the material overstatement of income and asset values of the group," Steinhoff said in its AGM presentation on Friday.

2. Steinhoff is facing a number of proposed lawsuits from shareholders and vendors

The group spent the most time talking about proceedings initiated against it by VEB, the Dutch Investors’ Association.

"[VEB] initiated proceedings against the company on 2 February 2018 in Amsterdam, bringing a collective action on behalf of the shareholders that the VEB claims to represent," said Steinhoff.

According to Steinhoff, the VEB submitted several claims for declaratory relief in relation to alleged damage suffered by shareholders due to investing in Steinhoff.

"Steinhoff has filed a number of preliminary motions, contesting the jurisdiction of the Amsterdam district court and requesting the court to authorise third party contribution proceedings to be instituted against the former CEO."

3. Liquidity is still tight

Shareholders asked numerous questions about the group's liquidity. Steinhoff said it has sufficient near term liquidity, but the situation is still "challenging". It will hold a lenders meeting in May to discuss a restructuring plan.

4. It wants to publish its audited 2017 results by the end of the year

The results were put on hold while PwC conducts its investigation.

5. Pwc report will be made public

Steinhoff says in aims to publish the full PwC forensic report once it has been completed, except for parts that may except for parts that may influence prosecutions or civil claims.

Bron : www.fin24.com/Companies/Retail/live-s...
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DeZwarteRidder schreef op 20 april 2018 15:18:

Bovendien was Jooste al rijk voordat hij begon met frauderen, waarom ga je dan alles op het spel zetten...??
Gewoon het mannetje uit willen hangen en kosten wat kost verbloemen dat je niet in staat bent de tent daadwerkelijk winstgevend te maken/houden.
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